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Recently "She-Ra and the Princesses of Power" (2018) Showrunner and Executive Producer N.D. Stevenson joined voice talent Aimee Carrero (She-Ra), AJ Michalka (Catra) and Karen Fukuhara (Glimmer) to celebrate the 4 year anniversary of the series finale on the Not-So-Average-Fangirl show... and brought up the possibility of doing a movie. The idea of continuing the story of the She-Ra reboot animated series (that aired on Netflix from 2018-2020) in the form of a film has been rumored for a while now, and when it came up during this Q&A, N.D. Stevenson and cast had plenty to say about it. Check…
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Why does it need a movie? The ending of the show was pretty solid.
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There's just no good reason to go back other than to introduce the MOTU aspect. The ending was comprehensive!
I would LOVE this and keeping my fingers crossed!
Yes the ending was excellent. BUT, the development of the characters, such as She-Ra and Catra professing their love, came at the very very end. (Again, an excellent ending).
BUT it is such a profoundly new facet, ground-breaking and rare, so important for the LGBTQ+ and all SPoPs fans– in this very instance, YES I would love to see more of it.
We have not seen much of them as an actual couple at all. We have not seen how the other budding romances could go… And they just teased an epic journey. The best friends squad are such lovely characters. It would be a blast!
I think the five seasons of the series are better self-contained, and would not benefit from a continuation of any kind. I would much rather finally receive seasons four and five on DVD than a new film. So long as this particular iteration of She-Ra is active at DreamWorks, we are not likely to receive other iterations, particularly a return to the vintage She-Ra. I wish they would let this version be, instead of continuing to pick at it.
It does not make much sense financially and it was never a big hit, but maybe because Stevenson had some success with Nimona and Mattel doesn't really have a say, it might have an outside chance at a TV movie. I'd rather they go back to classic She-Ra, though.
Melendy Britt FOREVER!!! Show is not cannon or remotely accurate to anything with the Filmation She Ra , Classics figure line , Masterverse line .
I would LOVE this and keeping my fingers crossed!
Yes the ending was excellent. BUT, the development of the characters, such as She-Ra and Catra professing their love, came at the very very end. (Again, an excellent ending).
BUT it is such a profoundly new facet, ground-breaking and rare, so important for the LGBTQ+ and all SPoPs fans– in this very instance, YES I would love to see more of it.
We have not seen much of them as an actual couple at all. We have not seen how the other budding romances could go… And they just teased an epic journey. The best friends squad are such lovely characters. It would be a blast!
I'm kinda torn on that. On one hand I appreciate and support the ground breaking and representation, but at the same time I just don't really like the idea of Adora and Catra as a couple. Again, I'm speaking specifically about this one pairing. I support and want more LGBQT couples in media, but that doesn't mean I have to like every shipping.
I'll admit my main reason is as a long time fan of the original, it's hard to wrap my head around them not being bitter enemies who hate each other. But even ignoring that I still didn't like Catra's character in the Netflix version. At least not in the way they intended us to. She was a decent villain, but one that I couldn't see getting redeemed. Really for the first three seasons it felt, to me at least, that the show was building toward Adora having to accept that her former friend was beyond redemption and would never change. Their relationship seemed very toxic honestly. I actually was expecting Adora to finally realize this and give up on Catra. (and also to then hook up with Glimmer) Catra didn't help her case any when she almost destroyed the whole world out of sheer pettiness. She had a tragic backstory yes, but that doesn't justify her actions. She had plenty of chances to do the right thing but deliberately chose evil instead. By the time she finally decided to reform I was like, "Nope! Too late, you crossed the moral event horizon. Best you can hope for now is redemption through death."
If you want an example of a character starting out as a mean rival, then properly changing, redeeming herself, and becoming a good girlfriend to the main also female character go watch The Owl House. Amity and Luz are an adorable couple. Love that pairing. That's a show I want to see a continuation of.
Meh. I'll watch it but my man Kevin Smith better give me the She-Ra we have all been waiting for.
@lordofdestruction I’ve seen this argument online, but I disagree 🤷 In many cases, i find it sort of a deflecting argument, saying We don’t mind having LGBTQ+ introduction, but we want it to be done *right*. Which in many cases online is code for, We want it less. We don’t want it in this case.
It doesn’t have to be perfect. It simply has to exist, to counter the overwhelming cases where it doesn’t exist.
As for the Catra / Adora pairing, it may not work as well in other interpretations of the canon, but in this one, it was incredibly surprising and ground breaking, and it absolutely worked IMHO in *this* iteration of these characters. I was surprised, I was touched, I cheered.
@lordofdestruction I’ve seen this argument online, but I disagree 🤷 In many cases, i find it sort of a deflecting argument, saying We don’t mind having LGBTQ+ introduction, but we want it to be done *right*. Which in many cases online is code for, We want it less. We don’t want it in this case.
It doesn’t have to be perfect. It simply has to exist, to counter the overwhelming cases where it doesn’t exist.
As for the Catra / Adora pairing, it may not work as well in other interpretations of the canon, but in this one, it was incredibly surprising and ground breaking, and it absolutely worked IMHO in *this* iteration of these characters. I was surprised, I was touched, I cheered.
I respectfully disagree with your disagreement. I concede you are correct that in many cases people online really mean they want less of it. I do however feel people have every right to be of the opinion that "This one doesn't work" I wish there was more I could give you than my word that I am only in objection to this one particular example and not asking for less representation overall. I tried providing an example I loved, even specifically choosing one where the characters started off as rivals then turned lovers in an attempt to make it as similar as possible. I also mentioned I thought for the first few seasons that Adora was going to end up with Glimmer. I felt they had better chemistry.
Maybe that's it. Perhaps I should have been more specific that I supported Adora and Glimmer as a couple over Adora and Catra.
I disagree that it's enough to simply exist. It's a good start, but quality is important. Yes it has to exist and we need more of it to exist, but simply existing isn't enough. It needs to be normalized. It needs to be where people treat it the same as heterosexual relationships, and the reality of that is not everyone is going to think every pairing works well. We should be able to discuss whether a pairing of two girls works or not the same as discussing if a pairing of a boy and girl works or not. No suspicion of underlying bigotry, just talking about a relationship period. Yeah we have a ways to go yet before we get there, but shouldn't we try? I wish I could put that in better words. I can see where I may not be presenting my case in a convincing way.
You say you thought Adora and Catra worked well as a couple. I say I thought they did not. We should be able to agree to disagree on that. Simply a difference of opinions. If we were talking about a guy and girl instead of two girls we likely would (or maybe not this is the internet) It should be that way for any and all.
@lordofdestruction Thank you for your further explanation, I do understand your points about this and respect you are coming from a good place.
It just makes me sad that when it comes to gay PoP, and for example black King Grayskull, the comment threads (and the overall reactions online) are usually quite long / plenty.
I would just say that some people do tend to be more critical about these sort of relationships / developments, than when it’s the old standard hetero etc etc Not you, but when I look at the quantities of criticism, particularly about this show… It’s totally over the top.
It is absolutely fair and important to look for quality, in representation and in everything, and criticism can make things better (how about they address this very thing in a new movie?), but only accept representation when it is perfectly written, then we will never get very far, in normalizing. Such high bar, while the others don’t have that bar, in order to be allowed to exist. I’m not expressing myself very well here, I’m sorry.
It’s not a level playing field, there is SO much catching up in normalizing to do. Saying we only allow the very most perfect shows when it comes to representation, you can see this is an additional hurdle, which slows down the flow of such groundbreaking content. Quality absolutely matters for LGBTQ+ versions of beloved franchises and for any new versions, but for representation, quantity does matter, too, and wether a show exists or not.
It is absolutely better to have a non-perfect show with totally groundbreaking representation, than not having it. Having an even better show, yes that would be even better! But for now, I am celebrating the show for being so courageous, so outrageous, so unlike any other MOTU/ PoP before.
I always think, on any era of our beloved franchise, “More MOTU, more better!”
In that regard, again, I respect your opinion but hope that if we ever get a SPoPs movie, you’ll check it out and be happy for the fans who love it so dearly.
@lordofdestruction I'm gonna go out on a bit of something here, and I don't mean to say one's opinion on Catra is less than another's, but I will say this:
I think a lot of the arguments against Catra's redemption are kind of not just missing the point on what her character represents, but a general understanding or what redemption is. The thing I love about Catra's character and the fact she didn't have to die is that it displays a message that abuse victims don't have to display their trauma in a flattering way if they want to get better. I think in society there's this image that every abuse victim is passive, meak, or defenseless like a stray puppy on the street, but plenty of people who work in departments relating to mental health will tell you a lot of children who are victims of abuse start showing traits of their abusers themselves. This is usually called the intergenerational cycle of violence. Ie when a person is abused they become more likely to become an abuser themselves when they grow up. Which means when that victim is growing up their starts to be a period in their life when the child is becoming an adult and will exhibit those same behaviors. This matches up with Catra's character quite well, and I think a clear fact of life a lot of people either ignore or don't want to admit is that there's a lot of older kids and young adults like Catra. And we should recognize those people who are also abuse victims deserve a chance to get better if they can help themselves and also accept the help from others around them. A lot of child abuse victims can be angry, violent, and toxic, but it still should be good for society that if they can find a way to break that chain and get better. And they can do it without having to suffer further.
My next part is more about narrative in general, but I want to get this out there. Redemption is not something one deserves. If you ask me, if people are asking or debating on whether or not a character deserves redemption, they have completely missed the very basis of what redemption is about. Deserving redemption just means forgiveness. Redemption is a long and strenous period of mental healing with no defining flipping of the switch moment when one goes from bad to good. Redemption is earned. One of the things I love about She-Ra is how it uses its narrative to explain what redemption and mental healing means. Horde Prime is a cult leader and his belief in eugenics extends into a belief that runs counter to what Catra needs to do. He tells his disciples that those destined for greatness while others just deserve destruction, and we can tell in Corridors that she knows this belief means she would be destined for death too. But she got Glimmer out of there and did an action in the face of consequences instead of accepting an easy and empty promise of baptizing to become "perfect".
Perhaps one can argue that Catra didn't do enough to earn redemption but...idk why we have such suddenly have such a long list that needs to be checked all of a sudden. I mean, I don't see a whole lot of heads turning if one says Yondu wound up being a great father to Peter in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 despite the fact he was, by all means, a trafficker and treated Quill horribly a lot of his life. I don't see a lot of outrage over the idea Vegeta was able to have a happy family with Bulma despite the fact his war crimes in his galactic conquest are higher than one can count (he eats natives then blows up their planet the first time we see him). Or hell, Anakin Skywalker? An OG redemption story in nerd culture? The dude who was by all means an enforcer of a genocidal imperialist force, cut off his own son's hand, threatened to turn his own daughter evil, and assisted in blowing up Alderaan? And keep in mind, this is just limited to the original trilogy. Not including the stuff he does in RotS. People will say him throwing the Emperor down the shaft was good enough for him to get good and be in what is basically Jedi heaven forever. And people most would tell you you'd be silly if you told them Little Annie's redemption was poorly written because of that. And to put the cherry ontop another big thing regarding nerd culture that came out at the end of 2018...Red Dead Redemption 2. Arthur Morgan spent a good chunk of his life robbing and killing folks in an outlaw gang, and at one point you have to control him beating and brutalizing a struggling family in order to force them to repay a debt to Strauss. And Morgan is considered by countless people to have one of the best redemption stories in al of fiction because of how he changed and got John, Abigail, Jack, and Uncle out of Dutch's gang. People would argue Morgan dying was not his redemption. It was good ol' Arthur adopting a new mentality and outlook on life and acting upon it that changed him as a man. And perhaps for the last bit of sprinkles on this sundae, did nobody ever ask whether or not Iroh got a customer at the Jasmine Dragon who pointed out he killed one of their family members during his Siege on Ba Sing Se?
To be perfectly clear, I'm not saying I don't like any of these redemption arcs and hate these characters. It's actually the opposite. I will say Anakin probably isn't in my top five redemption stories, but I will say, my favorite redemption stories are Zuko, Catra, Yondu, Heisei Godzilla (yes, I think Godzilla had a gradual redemption arc in his second series, but that's another story), Arthur Morgan, an Vegeta is probably there too. I'm just pointing out this sudden shift in standards when it comes to Catra. I would also argue there's also a big underlying element about Catra's character from all those other characters I bring up that did arguably as much horrible stuff and yet are still accepted as great redemption stories that leads to inherent bias against her. But I think when one gets past all that it's hard to argue the only way Catra had to get good would to be to die or suffer more or that this version of the story would be good or hopeful with what they had. She saved the universe with her kiss to Adora, via saving her life to make sure the failsafe, which allowed She-Ra to destroy Horde Prime and end the war after thousands of years. There's one comment I like to rememeber. Really, it's Catra who saved the day.
I'm beyond happy the creators had Catra be the way she was AND have her find a way out and get a happy ending. Instead of saying she had to either die or be banished to get good. It teaches its viewers that victims of abuse don't have to dipslay their trauma in a flattering way if they want a future where they get better. It can also be useful to young abuse victims themselves who can understand that even if what the went through makes them cruel, that doesn't mean they deserve misery and misery only.
I'm putting below me an image I made discussing what I view as the three main redemption arcs with examples.