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Smitty.81
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@depp76 I really hope they don't biff his mini comic.

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Well.......packaging pics are online now.

Lame Filmation She-Ra from SDCC is exactly what we're getting. No changes.

 

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Thanks for the bare bones approach to her likeness Mattel.


   
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It's a really crappy photo of her so it's hard to see her facial features.  Why are these leaked photos always so bad?  Anyways she's not really giving Filmation in my opinion from what I can see.  We shall see.  


   
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@depp76 It's because the source of the pics is a Instagram video where the packaging is spun in a stupid circle. These cc releases only have a front and a back. Why waste everyone's time spinning it?


   
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Posted by: @depp76

Demo Man on Mattel Creations 9/25.

https://creations.mattel.com/pages/launch-calendar

It says "Origins Core Demo Man". Is that what they are calling the vintage line these days? Origins Core?

 


   
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Guys, I am legit depressed about this.

 

I really wanted to think they'd do better by She-Ra.

 

*shakes head*


   
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@disneyboy You are really that upset with how she looks? I think She-Ra looks good. She looks more like Filmation She-Ra to me than CC He-Man looks like Filmation He-Man.


   
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*shrugs*

Look at CC Teela. Look at CC Evil Lyn.

Now look at the vague, soft, generic face of the namesake character of an entire brand.

 

Mattel just...doesn't bring their A Game with her.

 

Yeah, I'm bummed out.


   
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@disneyboy The screenshots we have of packaged She-Ra, from a rotating video, are still blurry and low-rez and behind plastic. Still hard to tell.🤞 

But I worry you won’t accept anything but perfection. It’s a 2D toon in 3D, it’s not easy… to be perfect.

Origins “vintage” and CC is full of compromises, mistakes and non-perfect things (CC Teela’s head / face is too small, e.g.) I could tell you without thinking 20 mistakes / flaws of CC and “vintage”. And have you seen Masterverse He-Man heads? It’s how it is with Mattel.

We may have this *perfect* imagination in our heads, and especially when it comes to beauty, it’ll always turn out a bit differently in reality. I hope you’ll be able to find joy with these releases nevertheless. 🖖


   
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Sigh.

I honestly AM excited for the Horde members we've seen - except Catra, who also looks to have a "meh" headsculpt, though the photos haven't been clear there either - and Octavia and Sea Hawk being on the packaging is VERY good news...

...but I just wanted to see them make smart decisions for once with how they designed her. The Classics versions were both marred by weird heads and poor skirts.

Even this one's boots are huge.

Would have been so nice to just pick her up and smile and say "wow - they finally did it!"

But you're right - look at Lyn with her weird skin tone and no cape. And He-Man's face was definitely not a homerun for everyone.

When you wait so long for something, you just want it to be right.


   
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The problem is no CC figure will ever be perfect. Trying to turn a collection of 2 dimensional drawings into a 3 dimensional and making it look exactly the same is impossible, especially at this small a size.

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@disneyboy The screenshots we have of packaged She-Ra, from a rotating video, are still blurry and low-rez and behind plastic. Still hard to tell.🤞 

But I worry you won’t accept anything but perfection. It’s a 2D toon in 3D, it’s not easy… to be perfect.

Origins “vintage” and CC is full of compromises, mistakes and non-perfect things (CC Teela’s head / face is too small, e.g.) I could tell you without thinking 20 mistakes / flaws of CC and “vintage”. And have you seen Masterverse He-Man heads? It’s how it is with Mattel.

We may have this *perfect* imagination in our heads, and especially when it comes to beauty, it’ll always turn out a bit differently in reality. I hope you’ll be able to find joy with these releases nevertheless. 🖖

I like it. This is a great attitude to have.

 


   
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What they also do with the CC designs, is “Origin”-ize the look in some ways. It shows on MEF’s big bucket head, chunkier weapons, bigger heads,… so yeah, the slightly chunkier boots on She-Ra, Catra,… There is a certain toyetic twist in Origins.

I still hope for the best final (head)sculpt with She-Ra once we see the final ! I’m really looking forward to her!


   
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Should Mattel re-do Kol-Darr as a CC release? As the only Filmation-unique character released in the regular line on the older Origins buck, he now doesn't stylistically match all the figures coming out as part of the cartoon collection. It's awkward.


   
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@durendal It's not 1:1 CC but I don't see it as too out of whack stylistically. Sure the armor is insultingly yellow but it only makes it look more cartoony not less.


   
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@caliban Perhaps a simpler solution would be picking up a second CC He-Man to put Kol-Darr's head and armour on that body!


   
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Posted by: @smitty-81

The problem is no CC figure will ever be perfect. Trying to turn a collection of 2 dimensional drawings into a 3 dimensional and making it look exactly the same is impossible, especially at this small a size.

Mattel did get better at it with time. They should redo He-Man and Skeletor. People would buy them.

 


   
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@durendal the armor from VC fingers won't fit on CC figures. 

@kraken they could but they'll never get it "prefect" with a drawing that's nearly impossible.  Maybe they could get Skeletor right by using a human skull as their starting point, but there will always be someone that will say the hood is wrong.

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The main issue with the early CC’s is the color. They all have these really light, soft colors. They have finally fixed that with the the Webstor wave.

If they could run these figures with more saturated colors, that would help.

I like Skeletor though he looks a bit… bald? Something about the hood, yeah. He-Man is pretty much perfect for my taste.

I can’t believe we’re actually *asking* Mattel for repaints and re-releases lol


   
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@cosmic CC Skeletor does look slightly off. The hood sits a bit too high, exposing too much forehead skull, which looks silly. The Super7 Filmation Skeletor remains the definitive version.


   
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