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Do you want Despara in the new Revolution series even if she can't be Adora?

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I am not sure how I feel so I will ask everyone here. Do you want Despara in Masters of the Universe Revolution even though she can't be Adora? What if they made her a new character? Would that hurt too much? I think that would hurt too much. 😿


   
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It might be a fun Easter egg at first but if you can't make her Adora I say why bother. You can leave it a mystery and never find out who Despara really is but then it will be left out there kind of dumb like when the trilogy is finally finished. Better to just not include her. He-Dad has spoken. 😁

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I do not even want the new season have anything to do with Etheria until they got their licensing s together. It should play on a totally different planet. The horde has multiple worlds in their grip; so thats not an issue. Even better; it gives them a playground to invent all the new stuff they want to invent without touching anything Etheria related till they are able to do it properly.


   
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This might have been a direction the CGI show was going to go if they had gone through with their plans for Season 4. Personally, as much as She-Ra has become an important figure in MOTU Lore, especially during the 2012-2017 DC Comics New 52 Reboot when Despera was introduced until Mattel settles this licensing issue between both Princess of Power and MOTU, I agree with Lurker-Man; leave Etheria and She-Ra out altogether. It would be better served if they focused on making new planets, new worlds. They can have a character similar to Despera if they so desire as kind of the face of one of the Horde's Armadas on these worlds that serves a similar purpose to what Adora did. I mean the Horde has a huge Empire and conquered galaxies. There's plenty of room to make a few new different planets and new characters. But I guess we'll have to wait and see.  


   
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Generally, I agree with the consensus. Leave her out until they actually can bring MotU and SPOP onto the screen together again.

That being said, if they get said licensing issues resolved, I hope they'd be willing to get the 3D series back up and running, so they could give us their take on She-Ra.

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@costume-n00b Yeah, I think some people thought they were going to use the 2018 version, which in some ways could fit, but I don't know. There were a few things between the 2018 She-Ra and the CGI He-Man that may have not worked so well, for one they're portrayals of Hordak and the Horde. Although they didn't get to the whole force of the Horde in the CGI version, they were going more supernatural and magical, whereas in 2018 they did a more technological and cultic version of it. I mean it would've fit a lot better than trying to cross it over with Revelation/Revolution. (Can someone give that version a new name besides the two shows considering they have two prequels set in that timeline) which is initially what N.D. Stevenson wanted and I think tried to pitch to Kevin Smith or at least said he did unless they went the Multiverse avenue, which who knows. Personally, I don't think the 2018 version of She-Ra is coming back, even if the Amazon version doesn't work out.


   
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@deltavax yeah, both ND and Kevin were interested in having their versions to cross-over, but the higher-ups didn't allow it to happen.

As for the 3D series, I was thinking a version of She-Ra seperate from 2018 She-Ra.

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No.  If they did, I'd want She-Ra to be the Filmation version since this show is basically a sequel to the 80s stuff.  I'd be more ok with Despara than Dreamworks She-Ra who wouldn't fit in with this show.


   
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@firefly I agree. We were told Revelation is the classic series continued. It would only make sense to give us the clasic She-Ra too.


   
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Posted by: @deltavax

@costume-n00b Yeah, I think some people thought they were going to use the 2018 version, which in some ways could fit, but I don't know. There were a few things between the 2018 She-Ra and the CGI He-Man that may have not worked so well, for one they're portrayals of Hordak and the Horde. Although they didn't get to the whole force of the Horde in the CGI version, they were going more supernatural and magical, whereas in 2018 they did a more technological and cultic version of it. I mean it would've fit a lot better than trying to cross it over with Revelation/Revolution. (Can someone give that version a new name besides the two shows considering they have two prequels set in that timeline) which is initially what N.D. Stevenson wanted and I think tried to pitch to Kevin Smith or at least said he did unless they went the Multiverse avenue, which who knows. Personally, I don't think the 2018 version of She-Ra is coming back, even if the Amazon version doesn't work out.

Maybe we can call it the Rev timeline or Revline.

 


   
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KS-MOTU maybe? I know they tried to sell the idea that its the Filmation continuation but sadly they took far too many liberties IMO for that. It is very traditional MOTU inspired with lots of Filmation elements to it though. It has its own canon where KS mixes stuff with his own ideas. The proper ad should have been "Imagine a continuation of the classic cartoons; if they where completely different" 😛 . But I do not think it would match well with 2018 She-Ra either but rather a cross between Filmation and 2012 She-Ra (Despara/Comic-book She-Ra) ... maybe a bit less gritty than the CB version 😶 

In any case as said; if they go for it they only should when they actually can do; and not the half a approach I expect them to do (which will drive the point of it having not much with the classic cartoon in common home even harder).

 

... mmmh... that sounds far to critical. I had my fun with the KS-MOTU; its... bold... promotion did set my bar of expectation higher than they where able to archive though.


   
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No.  If they did, I'd want She-Ra to be the Filmation version since this show is basically a sequel to the 80s stuff.  I'd be more ok with Despara than Dreamworks She-Ra who wouldn't fit in with this show.

There is a massive problem with that, the new timeline takes places after the 1983 shows ended, not after She-Ra! The issue here is that Mattel not having the rights decided to slap the 1983 show with some MOTU film + 2002 show content to make it legally in the gray. She-Ra cannot appear due to the legal issues but I suspect they could bring in Despara? The big issue is could she be named Adora or no? If a yes was granted to use She-Ra then this would still be a seperate timeline so no matter which She-Ra they pick they need to come from a alternate universe either way.

TLDR why

*1985: She never existed this MOTU timeline. (even if Adora exist she never meet Adam)

*2018: In this timeline Eternia lost the war against the Horde, Adora also found the sword a few years earlier at 17.

 

Edit: As for "wouldn't fit in" there are 2 things you did not take into consideration

1, the art style would be changed if they were to show up.

2, the 2018 characters would probably have a time skip to the same age if they were added to sell the twin thing.

3, The POP characters originally did not really fit into the He-Man series either back in the 80s even with same art style due to the design of the POP characters and He-Man characters did not really blend...

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Catra 2018 (season 4)
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She-Ra 2018 (season 5)
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3, The POP characters originally did not really fit into the He-Man series either back in the 80s even with same art style due to the design of the POP characters and He-Man characters did not really blend...

I never thought of it that way but I think you're right. The heroic warriors and the rebels don't really mesh that well.


   
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3, The POP characters originally did not really fit into the He-Man series either back in the 80s even with same art style due to the design of the POP characters and He-Man characters did not really blend...

I never thought of it that way but I think you're right. The heroic warriors and the rebels don't really mesh that well.

Really? As a kid, I always wished I had the Rebels to go along with He-Man's crew. One of the joys of now being a parent is having my daughter mix them together.

 


   
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No.  If they did, I'd want She-Ra to be the Filmation version since this show is basically a sequel to the 80s stuff.  I'd be more ok with Despara than Dreamworks She-Ra who wouldn't fit in with this show.

There is a massive problem with that, the new timeline takes places after the 1983 shows ended, not after She-Ra! The issue here is that Mattel not having the rights decided to slap the 1983 show with some MOTU film + 2002 show content to make it legally in the gray. She-Ra cannot appear due to the legal issues but I suspect they could bring in Despara? The big issue is could she be named Adora or no? If a yes was granted to use She-Ra then this would still be a seperate timeline so no matter which She-Ra they pick they need to come from a alt

ernate universe either way.

TLDR why

*1985: She never existed this MOTU timeline. (even if Adora exist she never meet Adam)

*2018: In this timeline Eternia lost the war against the Horde, Adora also found the sword a few years earlier at 17.

 

Edit: As for "wouldn't fit in" there are 2 things you did not take into consideration

1, the art style would be changed if they were to show up.

2, the 2018 characters would probably have a time skip to the same age if they were added to sell the twin thing.

3, The POP characters originally did not really fit into the He-Man series either back in the 80s even with same art style due to the design of the POP characters and He-Man characters did not really blend...

The 2018 show doesn't remotely feel like it fits in with the Filmation 80s He-Man show.  They are totally different beasts. It is basically Stevenson writing a D&D campaign (which Stevenson loves way more than She-Ra or MOTU).  The show was way too modernized as well.  More power to people that liked the 2018 show, but nothing felt Filmation about it.

 


   
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No.  If they did, I'd want She-Ra to be the Filmation version since this show is basically a sequel to the 80s stuff.  I'd be more ok with Despara than Dreamworks She-Ra who wouldn't fit in with this show.

There is a massive problem with that, the new timeline takes places after the 1983 shows ended, not after She-Ra! The issue here is that Mattel not having the rights decided to slap the 1983 show with some MOTU film + 2002 show content to make it legally in the gray. She-Ra cannot appear due to the legal issues but I suspect they could bring in Despara? The big issue is could she be named Adora or no? If a yes was granted to use She-Ra then this would still be a seperate timeline so no matter which She-Ra they pick they need to come from a alt

ernate universe either way.

TLDR why

*1985: She never existed this MOTU timeline. (even if Adora exist she never meet Adam)

*2018: In this timeline Eternia lost the war against the Horde, Adora also found the sword a few years earlier at 17.

 

Edit: As for "wouldn't fit in" there are 2 things you did not take into consideration

1, the art style would be changed if they were to show up.

2, the 2018 characters would probably have a time skip to the same age if they were added to sell the twin thing.

3, The POP characters originally did not really fit into the He-Man series either back in the 80s even with same art style due to the design of the POP characters and He-Man characters did not really blend...

The 2018 show doesn't remotely feel like it fits in with the Filmation 80s He-Man show.  They are totally different beasts. It is basically Stevenson writing a D&D campaign (which Stevenson loves way more than She-Ra or MOTU).  The show was way too modernized as well.  More power to people that liked the 2018 show, but nothing felt Filmation about it.

 

Revelation and Revolution is also to dark to fit in with the classic 80s characters to, in terms of being in spirit the 2018 She-Ra and 2020 He-Man CGI show are closer to their 80s counter parts in their. 

If going by how dark the shows are the 2nd darkest is 2018 show and to be fair character design for She-Ra herself could fit in nicely with a art style change, just look at the more muscular build of all the characters in Revelation and Revolution... 

Either way none of the shows really fit in with each other without breaking a hole in the Masterverse! 

 

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Grimdark aside; going by style Smiths MOTU fits in so far that its, at least in the majority, the hyperborean age/Conanesque fantasy mixed with Flash Gordon style retro SciFi which is MOTU/She-Ra (to some extend) in its finest. Both the other modern adaptions do mix well with each other since they are more medieval/renaissance fantasy mixed with clean & sleek StarTrekesque scifi. In itself a neat mixup I'd probably celebrate in a new IP but IMO very bad for MOTU (incl. SheRa) since it destroys their identity and is probably also the reason why New Adventures never clicked with me even though I like Star Trek.

... Hm... I'd say even without watching more than 2 episode of NA that New Adventures from its style and... well basically its everything might fit 2018 SheRa even better than CGI He-Man.


   
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It seems like Revolution has a lot of ground it's trying to cover in only five episodes. I doubt it has the bandwidth to sneak in anything Despara or She-Ra related (as in actual references to Etheria or it's denizens as we knew it in the PoP show or the DC Eternity Wars series), but I wouldn't be mad- I just don't need Despara to be some sort of separate from Adora/She-Ra type of character, because it would kinda be pointless.


   
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Posted by: @catra

3, The POP characters originally did not really fit into the He-Man series either back in the 80s even with same art style due to the design of the POP characters and He-Man characters did not really blend...

I never thought of it that way but I think you're right. The heroic warriors and the rebels don't really mesh that well.

Really? As a kid, I always wished I had the Rebels to go along with He-Man's crew. One of the joys of now being a parent is having my daughter mix them together.

As I was thinking about it when it comes to character design the rebels seem more human. Adora even rides a horse. On the other hand the Heroic Warriors look more otherworldly like Stratos, Buzz-Off, Ram Man, Mekaneck, and Man-E-Faces. 

 


   
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  • potential spoiler: Oh right some guy on reddit suggested it could a character from the comics, they suggested it could be Skeletor's Daughter? I have a problem with that and that is it will be completely out of blue for anyone who have not read the comics... 

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