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The Fantastic Four: First Steps (2025)

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The first teaser dropped a day ago:

Trailer #1

I'm loving the retro 50's art deco aesthetic... however, rumors have it that the Silver Surfer (my actual favorite Marvel character) is going to be a woman in this.

More accurately, the Silver Surfer is going to be Shalla-Bal... the wife of Norrin Radd (the ACTUAL Surfer).

I really want to like this movie (the FF are some of my fondest childhood memories... especially the John Byrne era), but how could Marvel Studios veer so far off course with the Surfer?!?

Ouch...

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The bronze age Thing design put a smile to my face. Changing Silver Surfer is a strange choice if we can believe the rumours considering it is such a fan favourite character. Normally I waive on all the DEI noise but this one will be difficult to dismiss. Do the chiefs come in with their quota requirements before a writer can put pen to paper?

 

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Strange choice not going for a younger actor to play Reed Richards. 49 is not old but In 10 years time he will be. Very confusing 


   
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Posted by: @ornclown

The first teaser dropped a day ago:

Trailer #1

I'm loving the retro 50's art deco aesthetic... however, rumors have it that the Silver Surfer (my actual favorite Marvel character) is going to be a woman in this.

More accurately, the Silver Surfer is going to be Shalla-Bal... the wife of Norrin Radd (the ACTUAL Surfer).

I really want to like this movie (the FF are some of my fondest childhood memories... especially the John Byrne era), but how could Marvel Studios veer so far off course with the Surfer?!?

Ouch...

Shalla-Bal is the Silver Surfer of Earth-9997. If Fantastic Four is set there, it would explain why they did not exist in the past of Earth-616.

There has been some discussion that . . .

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. . . Galactus is the anchor being of Earth-9997, and by neutralizing him in Fantastic Four, that timeline is pruned, leading the team to escape to Earth-616, bringing them into the main MCU continuity.

 


   
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Strange choice not going for a younger actor to play Reed Richards. 49 is not old but In 10 years time he will be. Very confusing 

Age aside, I think he is a strange choice altogether. I was hoping they would bring back John Krasinski, but I can see how he would not fit with the rest of the cast.

Ben and Sue seem well-cast. Johnny seems a little weak at the moment, but I could be sold if I see more of him. I do not love the CGI of Thing, but I have not loved it for characters like the Hulk or She-Hulk either. I have come to accept that the over-sized characters are going to be glorified cartoons.

 


   
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I hope the Thing is a work in progress. He looks cool but at the same time the CGI looks very fake.


   
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Strange choice not going for a younger actor to play Reed Richards. 49 is not old but In 10 years time he will be. Very confusing 

They tried to do that with Blade too and they did that to Ross. Instead of bringing in an actor younger than William Hurt they went older and replaced him with an 82 year old Harrison Ford. How long can he do it for? If they don't kill off Ross now it will be a pretty dumb casting choice.

 

 


   
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@asterstar Based on age and movie legend status alone (which is very expensive), I'm confident that Harrison Ford only signed on for one film. Even if this movie is a hit, it'll be at least 4 years I'm guessing until another sequel, by which point Ford will be in his late 80's. Hard to imagine that being viable. 

But hey, stranger things have happened - I was amazed that they got Robert Redford to make a second appearance!


   
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Yep... this is something I posted in another forum:

I heard that Doctor Doom was going to be the big bad guy across the next couple of phases... which suits me just fine. I think Doom is one of the best villains of all time - right up there with the likes of Skeletor and Darkseid. However, if he is truly going to be played by Robert Downey Jr., I will vomit. I can't stand that guy, or the fact that he was the most pivotal character in the MCU - going so far as to replace Uncle Ben in the Spider-Man continuity, barf!

With that said, word on the interwebs have said that this FF movie actually takes place in an alternate reality, outside of the standard MCU films. Although, knowing Reed Richards and his knack for making the impossible possible, it is very likely that they will cross over into the MCU at some point - which would explain their mysterious absence during End Game. (X-Men, too.)

But really, for me, I just want this to be true so that we can get a classic Silver Surfer in the MCU!! I have waited so long... Rise of the Silver Surfer did a decent job, and I really liked the way Doug Jones portrayed Norrin Radd, but it was over in a flash...

 

Heck, I wouldn't even mind if Shalla-Bal sacrifices herself (going against her master) to destroy Galactus in this movie if it makes way for Norrin Radd to appear in the MCU proper.

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@brasco 

He is a versatile actor no doubt, and I love him in the first season of The Last of Us... but, a part of me feels like he was chosen for the role because he's a hot ticket right now and not because of the aforementioned acting chops...

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@ornclown Yeah, it's like the marketing department is desperately telling us, "Hey look! We got the Mandalorian guy as the lead!! Isn't that awesome???"


   
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Posted by: @ornclown
I heard that Doctor Doom was going to be the big bad guy across the next couple of phases... which suits me just fine. I think Doom is one of the best villains of all time - right up there with the likes of Skeletor and Darkseid. However, if he is truly going to be played by Robert Downey Jr., I will vomit. I can't stand that guy, or the fact that he was the most pivotal character in the MCU - going so far as to replace Uncle Ben in the Spider-Man continuity, barf!

Tony Stark is Doctor Doom in Earth-5012. Reed Richards of Earth-5012 prevents him conquering the world by transporting him to Earth-616. So he is likely a Doctor Doom, but not the Doctor Doom—at least of our universe anyway.

 


   
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