you can put it on youtube private and share it privately with the rest of the fam
You can purchase it when it is made available. This film was made by members of the community, who received a cease and desist from NBCUniversal for doing so. The least you could do is financially support their work, which would not exist without their efforts. Asking people to pirate it, and make it available to you for free, is effectively stealing from the very community in which you purport to be a part. It is completely shameful.
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Its a fan episode bruh. He dont own the rights. He cant get paid for it. You cant pirate it because it is a pirate. Its like a fan film and a lot of hard work goes into those too. Sharing fan films arent illegal. You know what is illegal bruh? Gettin paid for it. Asking me to pay to watch it is illegal
Its a fan episode bruh. He dont own the rights. He cant get paid for it. You cant pirate it because it is a pirate. Its like a fan film and a lot of hard work goes into those too. Sharing fan films arent illegal. You know what is illegal bruh? Gettin paid for it. Asking me to pay to watch it is illegal
It is a special feature on an offical Blu-Ray box set release as well as an upcoming documentary film, bruh. Stop justifying trying to steal from creators in your own community, because you are too cheap to pay for their work.
Yea this is a tough one. It isn't legal and James shouldn't legally make money on it. It is just a fan episode and that's why James is trying to get around it with his documentary. And people post dvd supplemental stuff on youtube all the time. Then again James obviously worked very hard on it. Blood sweat and tears and all those kind of things. I don't know how to react if someone posts a link. I guess I'll face that problem if it happens.
Speaking of that documentary @firefly did you get any updates?
I finally watched the episode and it was pretty good. Sometimes it felt like I was watching a real episode but sometimes it felt very fan made. It is a nice labour of love and I am happy I watched it but I don't think I'll watch it again.
@samuel I like to think of it as a fan made proof of concept. If they found a way to make more episodes in the old Filmation style, there would be an audience.
"If you feel safe in the area you’re working in, you’re not working in the right area. Always go a little further into the water than you feel you’re capable of being in. Go a little bit out of your depth. And when you don’t feel that your feet are quite touching the bottom, you’re just about in the right place to do something exciting."
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@daavid I like it. I think this would of been the better approach. Eatock could have worked with a real industry writer and animator. Eatock would be a story supervisor or co-producer. If the pitch was successful we would have something similar to the X-Men '97 show right now but cheaper to make thanks to He-Man's basic animation.
March 2024 Update - James Eatock Rob McCallum Collaborator March 5, 2024
Hey Folks,
It’s sad that this has happened but I want to address it right away and directly: JAMES EATOCK IS NOT IN CHARGE OF THIS DOCUMENTARY PRODUCTION. He is ONLY the SUBJECT of it as it focuses on James and his life, particularly surrounding The Return of Faker. Why am I making an update about this? It has come to my attention that James has been bombarded with messages and emails expressing disappointment at the progress of this production as if he had something to do with it. HE DOES NOT. Let me go one step further: James has been exemplary in terms of collaborating and making himself available - all within reason. The only responsibilities James has taken on for this project are the sketches, the extended version of The Return of Faker and the mini comic, all of which he has been rightfully compensated for. Please get off his back.
There have been a TON of delays on this film and the two biggest issues have been covid, which prevented James and I from traveling and shooting together and then also, that 99% of our interviews are in another country, because please remember, I live in Canada and everyone we have interviewed lives in the US. Even when everything goes well on a documentary it can take 5 years on average for it to see the light of day. We have been trying to line up the interview with Erika since a year ago and it fell through 3 times before she was able to do it and then I had stuff on my end that prevented it from happening to the point I threw money at the problem and hired more people to take care of it so that it would just get done. I would be one thing If I lived in LA and could pop around snagging these interviews, but I dont and travel is expensive, even within the US when you’re bringing lots of gear, renting cars, hotels, food and paying wages too. This is why we try and really pack the trips with more than one interview at a time so we can lessen the financial cost of that trip across each interview. That’s common sense.
Let’s talk about the next stone thrown at James: my other ongoing commitments.
In the time since we launched Faking Filmation on Kickstarter and to date, I have completed Action Figure Adventure Season 2 (10 eps), Mr Dressup: The Magic of Make-Believe (90min doc) and most recently, Planet Cool Stuff (13 eps). BUT HOW HAVE I BEEN ABLE TO COMPLETE THESE WHEN FAKING FILMATION IS TAKING FOREVER? Really good question - with a logical answer.
Action Figure Adventure Season 2 took 8 days to film, 3 of which I wasn’t around for, and was funded based on the success of Season 1 and commissioned by a broadcaster.
Planet Cool Stuff was funded and commissioned from a broadcaster as well but more than half the season is made up of extras and interviews that we already shot from other material I had created - some material dating as far back as NINTENDO QUEST but repurposed. The rest of the season was shot across 6 days, 2 at power con, which makes up 2 episodes, and 4 in my home town area - in addition to two 15 minute interviews I did with James on the same day we filmed his massive interview for Faking Filmation.
Mr. Dressup: The Magic of Make Believe started in 2019 and believe it or not, wasn’t really impacted by the pandemic because we were looking for additional resources at that stretch and pitching to companies and distributors. Amazon came on board, as well as CBC, and commissioned the whole thing THREE YEARS AFTER I started and once I had a crap ton of interviews in the can that were shot from March 2019-November 2019, which we completely reshot, except for a few due to scheduling reasons. So there’s a perfect example of another film taking nearly 5 years to finish and that film hardly had ANY travel. 95% of the interviews were local to Toronto! From the time my initial round of shooting ended, I was editing, pitching and marketing the film for 3 years before someone decided to buy it and make it. IT TAKES THAT LONG - and I should say, that film had a team of hundreds of people. Faking Filmation will have only 3 “full-time” crew members.
I hope that brief breakdown both addresses how these projects were funded AND how I was to produce them with minimal impact on my day to day. You should know that I currently have at least 8 viable projects in various stages too and I will always continue to have different things going on because that is the only way I can take care of my family. Faking Filmation is one of the those projects and frankly, the one I’m most excited about, probably because we’ve been working on it the longest, but because it’s a GOOD STORY.
Please believe me when I say that I want this finished more than anyone because it’s a story that deserves to be shared with the world. If it helps stop James getting harassed for something he’s not in control of, then even better. Again, 90% of our backers seem really understanding and I do my best to update when it makes sense. “Reworking and sorting footage” isnt a really sexy update, but I love when I can share the bigger ones that have significant highlights. So thank you to everyone who understands that this is a process. And to anyone frustrated, I truly hope this helps clarify any potential cloudy areas. James has been long saying that this film will be worth the wait. And I certainly hope it will. But I do know if I rush it, it will be crap and really unfortunate because you can only release a film once and I’m not going to rush something to try and silence the crowd. This NEEDS to be great.
@he-dad enough people seriously financially backed a documentary about...the life of a specific MOTU super fan?? Wow. Scraping the bottom of the barrel much?? 🤣
@he-dad enough people seriously financially backed a documentary about...the life of a specific MOTU super fan?? Wow. Scraping the bottom of the barrel much?? 🤣
I stopped paying attention to most of his content years ago. His 40th Anniversary He-Man video which he made all about himself tells you all you need to know.
@caliban Oh I see - is he morphing into another Scott, where he just uses MOTU as a convenient vehicle to ultimately sell his personal brand? How utterly dull.
A few years ago I twice commented on his IG, asking him what his thoughts were on Revelation, and he never bothered to either answer me directly or address the topic in general. That, then the Return of Faker debacle, combined with his non-presence on any of the main MOTU fan forums caused me to ignore him from then on.
@he-dad enough people seriously financially backed a documentary about...the life of a specific MOTU super fan?? Wow. Scraping the bottom of the barrel much?? 🤣
No, it is about the rise and fall of FILMation, and the attempt by Eatock and Mitrović to release a fan film despite legal threats from NBCUniversal. It also happens to be one of the only legal ways to release this film, which many people want to see so badly, they are willing to steal it.
I stopped paying attention to most of his content years ago. His 40th Anniversary He-Man video which he made all about himself tells you all you need to know.
His 40th anniversay video in which half the runtime is dedicated to video submissions from members of the international He-Man fan community? 🙄
@caliban Oh I see - is he morphing into another Scott, where he just uses MOTU as a convenient vehicle to ultimately sell his personal brand? How utterly dull.
A few years ago I twice commented on his IG, asking him what his thoughts were on Revelation, and he never bothered to either answer me directly or address the topic in general. That, then the Return of Faker debacle, combined with his non-presence on any of the main MOTU fan forums caused me to ignore him from then on.
In one breath, you state he is using Masters of the Universe as vehicle for self-promotion; and in the next, complain that he is not a member of any of the popular Masters of the Universe forums, and did not offer a public opinion about Revelation. So which is it?
Moreover, you are not owed a reply, because you, along with dozens of others, left a comment on his Instagram. For ignoring him from that moment on, he seems to be living in your head rent-free.
About the episode itself; I liked it. Wish voice AI would had been where it is now when it was made; that clipping together of voices/sentences from different episodes was the stongest "its fan-made" reminder for me.
Could that be the main issue of the legal threats? Would it had been different if it actually had been a from the ground up newly created fan episode in Filmation style but without using any material Filmation made?
@caliban Oh I see - is he morphing into another Scott, where he just uses MOTU as a convenient vehicle to ultimately sell his personal brand? How utterly dull.
A few years ago I twice commented on his IG, asking him what his thoughts were on Revelation, and he never bothered to either answer me directly or address the topic in general. That, then the Return of Faker debacle, combined with his non-presence on any of the main MOTU fan forums caused me to ignore him from then on.
In one breath, you state he is using Masters of the Universe as vehicle for self-promotion; and in the next, complain that he is not a member of any of the popular Masters of the Universe forums, and did not offer a public opinion about Revelation. So which is it?
Moreover, you are not owed a reply, because you, along with dozens of others, left a comment on his Instagram. For ignoring him from that moment on, he seems to be living in your head rent-free.
I didn't state it as a fact - I asked for confirmation if that is indeed what he's doing, or seems to be doing. I don't know since I don't keep up with James.
My point about using MOTU to promote himself was simply to illustrate that if that's what he is indeed doing, he's not doing it terribly well. As I vaguely recall, when Revelation came out he made a post on his IG that he'd be making his opinions about the show known, and as an obsessed fan of the Filmation show with some degree of expertise on it, I was admittedly mildly curious as to what he thought about the first new animated MOTU content in decades, hence why after some time I reached out to get his take (with a subsequent follow up). Of course you are right that he doesn't "owe" anyone anything, but it does strike me as odd to essentially advertise one's hot take as one of the more well known fans of the property and then not only not follow through (as far I know), but also not engage with fellow fans on the main forums (such as the org until recently) or any of the dozens of huge MOTU Facebook groups where they congregate to discuss such topics.
Rent free? You seem to be implying that I'm somehow angry over what I described. 🤣 I'm afraid you give him too much credit. I haven't thought about him in years, and the memory that I shared above was only triggered once I saw the comment made by @caliban. I simply lost interest and moved on. I prefer to spend my limited amount of leisure time on other things.
About the episode itself; I liked it. Wish voice AI would had been where it is now when it was made; that clipping together of voices/sentences from different episodes was the stongest "its fan-made" reminder for me.
Could that be the main issue of the legal threats? Would it had been different if it actually had been a from the ground up newly created fan episode in Filmation style but without using any material Filmation made?
The issue is that it is an unauthorized derivative—all fan works are. And all fan works with few exceptions are technically infringement. It is just a matter of whether the exclusive rights holder 1.) discovers the infringement, and 2.) decides to follow-though. In this case, the creators worked on the intellectual property in an official capacity, and are notable in the fan community, so it drew more attention, and seemed like it may compete with or supplant their own works.
I stopped paying attention to most of his content years ago. His 40th Anniversary He-Man video which he made all about himself tells you all you need to know.
His 40th anniversay video in which half the runtime is dedicated to video submissions from members of the international He-Man fan community? 🙄
Yes, that one. If I watch a 40 Years Anniversary Filmation video from a channel like Toy Galaxy I get a much different video than one from Eatock. There are practically no I did this or I did that. I met him or I'm friends with her. I created this or I started that.🙄
@caliban Oh I see - is he morphing into another Scott, where he just uses MOTU as a convenient vehicle to ultimately sell his personal brand? How utterly dull.
A few years ago I twice commented on his IG, asking him what his thoughts were on Revelation, and he never bothered to either answer me directly or address the topic in general. That, then the Return of Faker debacle, combined with his non-presence on any of the main MOTU fan forums caused me to ignore him from then on.
From what I have seen and heard he treats himself as important as the brand itself. He acts like he is synonymous with Filmation. Less the ultimate fan and more part of the brand and above the rest of us.
Yes, that one. If I watch a 40 Years Anniversary Filmation video from a channel like Toy Galaxy I get a much different video than one from Eatock. There are practically no I did this or I did that. I met him or I'm friends with her. I created this or I started that.🙄
If Dan Larson co-founded the first and most comprehensive animated series review site, met all of the creators at FILMation, co-wrote the Mike Young Productions series bible, produced content for the official animated series YouTube channel, and wrote the official animated series guide, he would probably would.
From what I have seen and heard he treats himself as important as the brand itself. He acts like he is synonymous with Filmation. Less the ultimate fan and more part of the brand and above the rest of us.
That sounds like a projection based on your personal insecurities to me. Anyone who has actually met him would disagree with you.
