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@brasco Mattel's aversion to the vintage Princess of Power designs is really frustrating. We only ever get Filmation versions of She-Ra characters it seems.


   
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Do you guys think it’s bc POP is considered a  “girls” toy and they figure they won’t sell? Our whole community is over 90% male and they are the ones that want it


   
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Do you guys think it’s bc POP is considered a  “girls” toy and they figure they won’t sell? Our whole community is over 90% male and they are the ones that want it

I think so bud. I also think we who want them are in the minority. What I mean is a bunch of people were seeing Masterverse She-Ra figures hit clearance shelves after 2 months of release. I saw it too at my own Target. And that is the POP title character we are talking about. And if your title character has trouble selling than how are the lesser characters gonna sell? So what I am saying is I don't think She-Ra sells as much as we hoped she would. It's the same reason we don't get more Masterverse CG characters.

 

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They should sell 2 packs with a PoP hero and a Horde member in each. Most Horde members would sell a lot more readily and they could jack the price since its 2 packs. Best of both worlds for us fans who want both. 

I have to believe there is a bigger fan base for PoP than ROTS, and they managed to get through those figures. Maybe I'm wrong I guess since ROTS didn't really get any exposure over in Ireland where I grew up. 

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They should sell 2 packs with a PoP hero and a Horde member in each. Most Horde members would sell a lot more readily and they could jack the price since its 2 packs. Best of both worlds for us fans who want both.


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I have to believe there is a bigger fan base for PoP than ROTS, and they managed to get through those figures. Maybe I'm wrong I guess since ROTS didn't really get any exposure over in Ireland where I grew up. 

Since Sun Man is owned by a different company I gotta think there was some kind of number of figures contracted that had to be made even if sales was in the toilet. And maybe they are in the toilet considering Mattel is pushing these still which it doesn't for other releases.

https://twitter.com/MastersOfficial/status/1725613807572230352?t=usxbetQxeb3eWfDEaDSEBg&s=19

 

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@he-dad Other people struggled to find Masterverse She-Ra so I think it was just distribution issues. Origins She-Ra is getting a re-release so she must have sold well. I think if they do away with the soft goods and replace them with plastic the She-Ra figures will come off less as girl toys but I don't think there's no demand for them. Maybe not all the characters but most MOTU fans want at least the main ones.


   
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It wasn’t just She-ra being clearanced out, well by me anyway. When masterverse was stocked on a regular basis when the new waves came out they marked down whatever was on the shelf. Personally this is how I got Beast man, King Grayskull, Andra, Sun-man, She-ra, Hordak,  Frosta and Evil Lyn


   
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 lol, glad you like it. Mattel, if you're listening, consider this my job application, haha

Since Sun Man is owned by a different company I gotta think there was some kind of number of figures contracted that had to be made even if sales was in the toilet. And maybe they are in the toilet considering Mattel is pushing these still which it doesn't for other releases.

https://twitter.com/MastersOfficial/status/1725613807572230352?t=usxbetQxeb3eWfDEaDSEBg&s=19

 

Yeah, you're probably right there. 

 

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@he-dad Other people struggled to find Masterverse She-Ra so I think it was just distribution issues. Origins She-Ra is getting a re-release so she must have sold well. I think if they do away with the soft goods and replace them with plastic the She-Ra figures will come off less as girl toys but I don't think there's no demand for them. Maybe not all the characters but most MOTU fans want at least the main ones.

That re-release point is a good one bro. Guess it was distribution issues or maybe that higher deluxe pricing too. I think they should have put She-Ra out as a standard fig like all the masterverse He-Men.

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It wasn’t just She-ra being clearanced out, well by me anyway. When masterverse was stocked on a regular basis when the new waves came out they marked down whatever was on the shelf. Personally this is how I got Beast man, King Grayskull, Andra, Sun-man, She-ra, Hordak,  Frosta and Evil Lyn

You saved a lot of coin. I found all of them on the shelf except Sun-Man. Never could find him for some reason.

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lol, glad you like it. Mattel, if you're listening, consider this my job application, haha

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Idk if anyone saw yet but toy habits has an anonymous source saying Bow and She-ra are coming to the cartoon collection. Are his sources legit?

Much of what they've said came from their various sources has turned out to be true. However they were at one point saying that Terroar and Lord Gr'Asp were going to be in wave 13 or 14. IMO both of those wave would have benefited for those two replacing 200X Randor and Serpent Claw Man-at-Arms.

 

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@smitty-81 either way, I'm so glad I read this as I was about to begin a Bow custom. I might still need to make some changes since the series has an altered buck. I hope they use his vintage toy look with the scale armor but I guess it's doubtful since it is an animation based collection. 🤔🤷


   
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@smitty-81 either way, I'm so glad I read this as I was about to begin a Bow custom. I might still need to make some changes since the series has an altered buck. I hope they use his vintage toy look with the scale armor but I guess it's doubtful since it is an animation based collection. 🤔🤷

I'll just have Bow be tall.

 

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It sure is quiet around these here parts lol.  


   
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It sure is quiet around these here parts lol.  

We need some new Origins announcements!

 

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It sure is quiet around these here parts lol.  

Blame Mattel!

 


   
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It sure is quiet around these here parts lol.  

We need some new Origins announcements!

 

 

Given the move to the cartoon collection I am not really excited about the upcoming figures personally.

 


   
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It sure is quiet around these here parts lol.  

We need some new Origins announcements!

 

 

Given the move to the cartoon collection I am not really excited about the upcoming figures personally.

 

Same.

 


   
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There must be something coming on MC soon to take another step towards completing vintage surely! 

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Posted by: @herapop

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It sure is quiet around these here parts lol.  

We need some new Origins announcements!

 

 

Given the move to the cartoon collection I am not really excited about the upcoming figures personally.

 

I ponder how Mattel believes these figures will be appealing to collectors who already own the Classics cartoon line.

 

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