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@catra The problem is always money and not wanting other companies to have a piece of that pie.

Toy sales and Netflix revenue may play into it, in Mattel case I suspect they wanna gain more on toy sales. I do currently suspect the the new She-Ra may cost them more licence wise than the 80s ones, so Mattel obviously want classic She-ra to appear...

 

Exactly. Especially with Revelations / Revolution set up as a "continuation of the 1980s series" (even though most agree it's more of an AU).

 

Well it does not really look like DreamWorks was ok with it, if they were I bet She-Ra would have been in it! Legally speaking this cannot be the sequal to the 80s show unless DreamWorks approves of it as such. We can even see that in the wording used by Kevin Smith multiple times? Another red flag is that it looks like this is a timeline where He-Man(Adam) never meet She-Ra(Adora), if that is so we can safely take it as a alternate timeline that is very true to the 80s one and also a potential "What if She-Ra never happened" which is still cool to me! Speaking of what if the new SPOP is in my eyes the "what if the Horde won against Eternia" timeline. 😉 

 

Some of the press releases describe it as such (as a follow-up). Although, those were pretty early releases.

I agree with you on the alternate timeline thing. It's one of the reasons many of the fans (like me) consider it an AU. Either way, we won't know for sure until they release more info. 

 

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@catra The problem is always money and not wanting other companies to have a piece of that pie.

Toy sales and Netflix revenue may play into it, in Mattel case I suspect they wanna gain more on toy sales. I do currently suspect the the new She-Ra may cost them more licence wise than the 80s ones, so Mattel obviously want classic She-ra to appear...

 

Exactly. Especially with Revelations / Revolution set up as a "continuation of the 1980s series" (even though most agree it's more of an AU).

 

Well it does not really look like DreamWorks was ok with it, if they were I bet She-Ra would have been in it! Legally speaking this cannot be the sequal to the 80s show unless DreamWorks approves of it as such. We can even see that in the wording used by Kevin Smith multiple times? Another red flag is that it looks like this is a timeline where He-Man(Adam) never meet She-Ra(Adora), if that is so we can safely take it as a alternate timeline that is very true to the 80s one and also a potential "What if She-Ra never happened" which is still cool to me! Speaking of what if the new SPOP is in my eyes the "what if the Horde won against Eternia" timeline. 😉 

 

Some of the press releases describe it as such (as a follow-up). Although, those were pretty early releases.

I agree with you on the alternate timeline thing. It's one of the reasons many of the fans (like me) consider it an AU. Either way, we won't know for sure until they release more info. 

 

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@catra that's it, except one little thing:

Mattel Television, the producers of Revelation, does not have rights to the 2002 adaption of He-Man so any plot details or character presentations from that series couldn't be incorporated into this story.

He-Man 2002 is technically owned by "Mike Young Productions."

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Here's an article detailing how Filmation Motu and Revelation lore is connected: 🙂

https://foreternia.com/2022/01/how-the-filmation-series-and-masters-of-the-universe-revelation-is-connected

 

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@catra that's it, except one little thing:

Mattel Television, the producers of Revelation, does not have rights to the 2002 adaption of He-Man so any plot details or character presentations from that series couldn't be incorporated into this story.

He-Man 2002 is technically owned by "Mike Young Productions."

Which is why since they do not own either the 200X or Filmation show the solution was to mash them into one, plus @admin has a good post about it.

 

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@catra that's it, except one little thing:

Mattel Television, the producers of Revelation, does not have rights to the 2002 adaption of He-Man so any plot details or character presentations from that series couldn't be incorporated into this story.

He-Man 2002 is technically owned by "Mike Young Productions."

Which is why since they do not own either the 200X or Filmation show the solution was to mash them into one, plus @admin has a good post about it.

 

With what we saw with Revelation, it appears Mattel has the ability to be a "spiritual" sequel to any series if they so choose. 🙂

 

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I never heard spiritual sequels before until revelation. Its krazy that you can do that and not get sued


   
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I never heard spiritual sequels before until revelation. Its krazy that you can do that and not get sued

They did probably talk with DreamWorks prior to making it, DreamWorks was in talks with Mattel when making She-Ra after all. A few things I remember the creators of She-Ra said was they could not have Castle Gray Skull & no planet Eternia! That is the only 2 things I am aware they cannot use, which makes me think those who have hopes for the live-action She-Ra to be more 80s might be extremely disappointed? 🤔

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I never heard spiritual sequels before until revelation. Its krazy that you can do that and not get sued

They did probably talk with DreamWorks prior to making it, DreamWorks was in talks with Mattel when making She-Ra after all. A few things I remember the creators of She-Ra said was they could not have Castle Gray Skull & no planet Eternia! That is the only 2 things I am aware they cannot use, which makes me think those who have hopes for the live-action She-Ra to be more 80s might be extremely disappointed? 🤔

You are saying Dreamworks could of still got paid. Could be could be. I dont think She-Ra amazon will be like either show but a brand new take and no hardcore fan is gonna be happy

 


   
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I never heard spiritual sequels before until revelation. Its krazy that you can do that and not get sued

They did probably talk with DreamWorks prior to making it, DreamWorks was in talks with Mattel when making She-Ra after all. A few things I remember the creators of She-Ra said was they could not have Castle Gray Skull & no planet Eternia! That is the only 2 things I am aware they cannot use, which makes me think those who have hopes for the live-action She-Ra to be more 80s might be extremely disappointed? 🤔

You are saying Dreamworks could of still got paid. Could be could be. I dont think She-Ra amazon will be like either show but a brand new take and no hardcore fan is gonna be happy

 

Ain't that the truth. I'll still give it a watch (just in case).

 

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The New Adventures of She-Ra.

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The New Adventures of She-Ra.

😆

I think Dreamworks may just barely have enough of the IP to do that, the problem is the characters based on Mattel toys they may not be usable unless they make a deal with Mattel. 

Personally I would love to see it as a spin-off to SPOP where 2 or more of the characters gets sent to the tri-solar galaxy. (time travel may not be needed tough it would make it a one way trip, also limits who else can show up.) 

 

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The New Adventures of She-Ra.

😆

I think Dreamworks may just barely have enough of the IP to do that, the problem is the characters based on Mattel toys they may not be usable unless they make a deal with Mattel. 

Personally I would love to see it as a spin-off to SPOP where 2 or more of the characters gets sent to the tri-solar galaxy. (time travel may not be needed tough it would make it a one way trip, also limits who else can show up.) 

 

I guess there's nothing stopping them doing a deep departure new incarnation. Like Adora is a High School Senior in New Jersey. When a new student transfers to her school named Catrina, nothing can prepare Adora for the..... 🙂

 

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The New Adventures of She-Ra.

😆

I think Dreamworks may just barely have enough of the IP to do that, the problem is the characters based on Mattel toys they may not be usable unless they make a deal with Mattel. 

Personally I would love to see it as a spin-off to SPOP where 2 or more of the characters gets sent to the tri-solar galaxy. (time travel may not be needed tough it would make it a one way trip, also limits who else can show up.) 

 

I guess there's nothing stopping them doing a deep departure new incarnation. Like Adora is a High School Senior in New Jersey. When a new student transfers to her school named Catrina, nothing can prepare Adora for the..... 🙂

 

For all we know that could be the live action version, Catra could go by the 80s name Elizabeth and go under the super villain name of Catra working for the evil aliens from the Horde? The Princesses could also be from space and try to stop the evil Horde from taking Earth? Would be interesting to see how Adora(She-Ra) & Elizabeth(Catra) finds out the other works for the other side. 😱

 

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lol I would watch that.

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The New Adventures of She-Ra.

😆

I think Dreamworks may just barely have enough of the IP to do that, the problem is the characters based on Mattel toys they may not be usable unless they make a deal with Mattel. 

Personally I would love to see it as a spin-off to SPOP where 2 or more of the characters gets sent to the tri-solar galaxy. (time travel may not be needed tough it would make it a one way trip, also limits who else can show up.) 

 

I guess there's nothing stopping them doing a deep departure new incarnation. Like Adora is a High School Senior in New Jersey. When a new student transfers to her school named Catrina, nothing can prepare Adora for the..... 🙂

 

For all we know that could be the live action version, Catra could go by the 80s name Elizabeth and go under the super villain name of Catra working for the evil aliens from the Horde? The Princesses could also be from space and try to stop the evil Horde from taking Earth? Would be interesting to see how Adora(She-Ra) & Elizabeth(Catra) finds out the other works for the other side. 😱

 

It would!

But that is what I was thinking for the live-action Amazon She-Ra, they could go for an entirely different take, something as drastically different as the 1987 film was to Filmation, or how different the 2021 Netflix Children's Series turned out to be. Or Adora starts out as a normal Earth teenager, or so she thinks! I am REALLY curious what they are planning to do!🙂

 

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The New Adventures of She-Ra.

😆

I think Dreamworks may just barely have enough of the IP to do that, the problem is the characters based on Mattel toys they may not be usable unless they make a deal with Mattel. 

Personally I would love to see it as a spin-off to SPOP where 2 or more of the characters gets sent to the tri-solar galaxy. (time travel may not be needed tough it would make it a one way trip, also limits who else can show up.) 

 

I guess there's nothing stopping them doing a deep departure new incarnation. Like Adora is a High School Senior in New Jersey. When a new student transfers to her school named Catrina, nothing can prepare Adora for the..... 🙂

 

For all we know that could be the live action version, Catra could go by the 80s name Elizabeth and go under the super villain name of Catra working for the evil aliens from the Horde? The Princesses could also be from space and try to stop the evil Horde from taking Earth? Would be interesting to see how Adora(She-Ra) & Elizabeth(Catra) finds out the other works for the other side. 😱

 

It would!

But that is what I was thinking for the live-action Amazon She-Ra, they could go for an entirely different take, something as drastically different as the 1987 film was to Filmation, or how different the 2021 Netflix Children's Series turned out to be. Or Adora starts out as a normal Earth teenager, or so she thinks! I am REALLY curious what they are planning to do!🙂

 

Yeah also Catra and Adora was friends as kids, later Catra becomes a mean girl and their friendship falls apart? Would think Adora would not approve of being mean, also that would cause this to be rather personal! I love all the possible paths this could go in such a setting, however I think the high school part should be first season only? Then it gets darker and darker as the show goes on... 😱

 

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The Earth Origin idea has never really been used for any version of He-Man or She-Ra, so I'm interested to see how it could work.

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The Earth Origin idea has never really been used for any version of He-Man or She-Ra, so I'm interested to see how it could work.

I would also like to see Horde aircrafts and tanks fight F-35 jets & M1 tanks. 😁

Edit: Also the Princesses with element powers could be from Etheria, they fleed their world after the Horde took it over. Bow and Seahawk could be from either of the two worlds depending on what is needed? I personally think Seahawk should be the space captain who brought the rebellion to earth on a ship! :3

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The New Adventures of She-Ra.

😆

I think Dreamworks may just barely have enough of the IP to do that, the problem is the characters based on Mattel toys they may not be usable unless they make a deal with Mattel. 

Personally I would love to see it as a spin-off to SPOP where 2 or more of the characters gets sent to the tri-solar galaxy. (time travel may not be needed tough it would make it a one way trip, also limits who else can show up.) 

 

I guess there's nothing stopping them doing a deep departure new incarnation. Like Adora is a High School Senior in New Jersey. When a new student transfers to her school named Catrina, nothing can prepare Adora for the..... 🙂

 

For all we know that could be the live action version, Catra could go by the 80s name Elizabeth and go under the super villain name of Catra working for the evil aliens from the Horde? The Princesses could also be from space and try to stop the evil Horde from taking Earth? Would be interesting to see how Adora(She-Ra) & Elizabeth(Catra) finds out the other works for the other side. 😱

 

It would!

But that is what I was thinking for the live-action Amazon She-Ra, they could go for an entirely different take, something as drastically different as the 1987 film was to Filmation, or how different the 2021 Netflix Children's Series turned out to be. Or Adora starts out as a normal Earth teenager, or so she thinks! I am REALLY curious what they are planning to do!🙂

 

Yeah also Catra and Adora was friends as kids, later Catra becomes a mean girl and their friendship falls apart? Would think Adora would not approve of being mean, also that would cause this to be rather personal! I love all the possible paths this could go in such a setting, however I think the high school part should be first season only? Then it gets darker and darker as the show goes on... 😱

 

Maybe Adora is not of Earth but her mind was wiped and she was hid on Earth by the Horde. And Catra is there impersonating as an Earth human too as Adora's friend, watching her and making sure the mind wipe holds. She's her enemy but they slowly became real friends and all her feelings are mixed. Then there is some jail break of sorts when the resistance finally finds Adora and tries to convince her that she's something more but it takes all season for her memory to finally come back. 🤔 

 

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The New Adventures of She-Ra.

😆

I think Dreamworks may just barely have enough of the IP to do that, the problem is the characters based on Mattel toys they may not be usable unless they make a deal with Mattel. 

Personally I would love to see it as a spin-off to SPOP where 2 or more of the characters gets sent to the tri-solar galaxy. (time travel may not be needed tough it would make it a one way trip, also limits who else can show up.) 

 

I guess there's nothing stopping them doing a deep departure new incarnation. Like Adora is a High School Senior in New Jersey. When a new student transfers to her school named Catrina, nothing can prepare Adora for the..... 🙂

 

For all we know that could be the live action version, Catra could go by the 80s name Elizabeth and go under the super villain name of Catra working for the evil aliens from the Horde? The Princesses could also be from space and try to stop the evil Horde from taking Earth? Would be interesting to see how Adora(She-Ra) & Elizabeth(Catra) finds out the other works for the other side. 😱

 

It would!

But that is what I was thinking for the live-action Amazon She-Ra, they could go for an entirely different take, something as drastically different as the 1987 film was to Filmation, or how different the 2021 Netflix Children's Series turned out to be. Or Adora starts out as a normal Earth teenager, or so she thinks! I am REALLY curious what they are planning to do!🙂

 

Yeah also Catra and Adora was friends as kids, later Catra becomes a mean girl and their friendship falls apart? Would think Adora would not approve of being mean, also that would cause this to be rather personal! I love all the possible paths this could go in such a setting, however I think the high school part should be first season only? Then it gets darker and darker as the show goes on... 😱

 

Maybe Adora is not of Earth but her mind was wiped and she was hid on Earth by the Horde. And Catra is there impersonating as an Earth human too as Adora's friend, watching her and making sure the mind wipe holds. She's her enemy but they slowly became real friends and all her feelings are mixed. Then there is some jail break of sorts when the resistance finally finds Adora and tries to convince her that she's something more but it takes all season for her memory to finally come back. 🤔 

 

I like it but how young would they be then when placed on Earth? 

 

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I like it but how young would they be then when placed on Earth? 

I'm thinking age 17 or 18 in her Senior Year of High School (12th Grade). Adora would be an adult and a child, the best of both worlds. 🙂

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I like it but how young would they be then when placed on Earth? 

I'm thinking age 17 or 18 in her Senior Year of High School (12th Grade). Adora would be an adult and a child, the best of both worlds. 🙂

Well will they have a mom there to? Or will they brainwash some poor earth human to think Adora is theirs? Meanwhile Catra probably hides out in the Horde HQ which is inside some abondoend old building? Would be really awkward for her to say "ya know mom won't let me have visitors, also our place is kinda a dump. You do not wanna see it anyway?" faking a smile... 

 

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I like it but how young would they be then when placed on Earth? 

I'm thinking age 17 or 18 in her Senior Year of High School (12th Grade). Adora would be an adult and a child, the best of both worlds. 🙂

Well will they have a mom there to? Or will they brainwash some poor earth human to think Adora is theirs? Meanwhile Catra probably hides out in the Horde HQ which is inside some abondoend old building? Would be really awkward for her to say "ya know mom won't let me have visitors, also our place is kinda a dump. You do not wanna see it anyway?" faking a smile... 

 

I like your abandoned old building idea for Catra!

It's possible Shadow Weaver can be disguised as She-Ra's mom. Or she's just living with a real foster parent, placed there with a bogus story. Until it all hits the fan. I like the idea of her world crumbling around her, as she wonders who can she trust. It could setup some quality drama... and comedy!

Adora shoves teacher up against wall.

Adora: Who are you?

Teacher: Your teacher!

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I like it but how young would they be then when placed on Earth? 

I'm thinking age 17 or 18 in her Senior Year of High School (12th Grade). Adora would be an adult and a child, the best of both worlds. 🙂

Well will they have a mom there to? Or will they brainwash some poor earth human to think Adora is theirs? Meanwhile Catra probably hides out in the Horde HQ which is inside some abondoend old building? Would be really awkward for her to say "ya know mom won't let me have visitors, also our place is kinda a dump. You do not wanna see it anyway?" faking a smile... 

 

I like your abandoned old building idea for Catra!

It's possible Shadow Weaver can be disguised as She-Ra's mom. Or she's just living with a real foster parent, placed there with a bogus story. Until it all hits the fan. I like the idea of her world crumbling around her, as she wonders who can she trust. It could setup some quality drama... and comedy!

Adora shoves teacher up against wall.

Adora: Who are you?

Teacher: Your teacher!

Adora: (shoves her harder) WHO ARE YOU REALLY?

Teacher: YOUR MATH TEACHER!!!!! Is this because I didn't give you an "A"?

😄

 

Absolutely I would hate it if they make it to dark it needs silly moments to! 😊👍🏻

 

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