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@sketchyskeletor @lasastard

What are you guys going to do when the movie comes out and MOTU has a big retail presence again? If Mattel does start an Origins: Film Collection we might see VC figures on store shelves again. That would be a nice opportunity to do some more FF figures as well.

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@Smitty.81

 

Good question. I have been able to stay clear of the Cartoon Collection, mostly (obviously I had to get Cringer/Adam, and a few of the heavy hitters - I always get those). With all those lines, sub lines and special releases, I think there is a danger to lose focus of the collection and at some point you just buy to kind of keep up with everything rather than for a specific reason. For me, that reason was/is the vintage line and seeing it updated and re-released. Sadly, Mattel has really been dragging their feet; should have been done a year ago or so. 

 

So all those various "ventures" are a little annoying to me for that reason (Mattel not focusing on "getting it done"). I do collect Masterverse tho, but only NE and only figures I enjoy (which is most of them). 

 

 


   
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@lasastard one could argue that updating the vintage line includes additional characters like Geldor, the lost wave and Powers of Grayskull.

Things that could have been, should have been and stuff we would have loved to get at 3-7 years old. 

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Well well well! 

Just kidding, I basically agree. Although I would probably want to divide it up into "actually released vintage figures" (which is my primary interest), figures that were planned but never released (Preternia) and figures that are vintage-adjacent (through mini comics and the like). 

Which is why I am so annoyed by Club Grayskull and Mattel pay walling He-Ro. To me he is a natural part of the original "Origins" line. I was always hoping they would get through the vintage line and then keep exploring what was meant to come post 1987. 

But the way they went about this was so all over the place that it's been hard to stay invested in the line. And now that Preternia is Club Grayskull (as far as we can tell), I just won't bother anymore. 5+ years of collecting Origins and now I have to pay an entrance fee to keep collecting what I consider to be the same line. So yeah, that stinks. 


   
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Mattel opens so many interesting doors - then slams them shut in our faces more often than not.

I would kill for New Adventures to be added to the Origins lineup, but I'm afraid the 40th Anniversary NA He-Man is all we're going to get.

In actuality, Princess of Power, Powers of Grayskull, and New Adventures all have enticing characters that would make excellent Origins figures... then, the cherry on top is the cast from Son of He-Man.

Sprinkle in Vintage and Cartoon Collection characters in each wave, and this line could potentially last another decade - this doesn't even mention the Brand - Crossover possibilities.

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@ornclown maybe Mattel is shying away from NA because each character had a lot of unique tooling. How willing would you be to accept a lot of part reuse if it meant at least getting the NA guys out? It's hard to say. I thought Classics straddled that line surprisingly well, although it was getting very tiresome how often they reached for the Trap Jaw legs

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If they had started mixing in PoP, NA, & 200X early in the line it may have done much better, the problem with that is getting a mini comic that features Flog, Glimmer, 200X Marzo, Plasmar, He-Man and Skeletor in one 6 page mini comic.

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@smitty-81 A comic like that would be awesome!!


   
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@durendal yeah right. Go read the Vultak mini comic. It's 6 pages of too much backstory pointless explanation about unimportant aspects of the character then just two pages of actual story. Rio-Blast's wasn't much better.

And that's nothing compared to how Clawful and Spikor got treated. 

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Right now, I so wish Mattel would use the last Hordak Hurricane variant slot as a bundle so they could include his instectoid steed once and for all. I mean, what are the chances of it ever being made after such a missed opportunity?


   
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Posted by: @onlyoneskeletor

Right now, I so wish Mattel would use the last Hordak Hurricane variant slot as a bundle so they could include his instectoid steed once and for all. I mean, what are the chances of it ever being made after such a missed opportunity?

If we get a vehicle/mount shown at SDCC or whatever I'll have more hope, but obviously none of them have set the world alight. I mean the obvious thing to do is have them be made to order but Mattel can't be having logic, sure it would only become expected!

 


   
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@sketchyskeletor Seeing how the creature from the old Fright Zone has been revisited, I can't help but hold my breath for a new concept to emerge: "The creepy guardian crawling around the domain". Which brings me back to your point about future made-to-order products. To sum up, I could very well see them including the beast in a future Doom Tower playset. It would be wild!


   
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Posted by: @onlyoneskeletor

@sketchyskeletor Seeing how the creature from the old Fright Zone has been revisited, I can't help but hold my breath for a new concept to emerge: "The creepy guardian crawling around the domain". Which brings me back to your point about future made-to-order products. To sum up, I could very well see them including the beast in a future Doom Tower playset. It would be wild!

Yeah, like the Snake Lair transport!

 


   
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I'm not holding out much hope for more vehicles in this line. They keep teasing stuff on artwork, but it's been a good long while since anything was revealed. What was the the most recent vehicle, the Collector? 40 years of waiting and they did an awful job on it, so fans were disappointed, so they've been quiet since. They probably blame us...


   
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Posted by: @durendal

...the Collector? 40 years of waiting and they did an awful job...

Wat?

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@durendal Well, "awful" isn't exactly the word I'd use to describe this aerodynamic design, and I say that as a strict collector of 6-inch-plus items (the more detail, the better for me). As a result, I was frankly blown away by the rendering and finish of this vehicle, especially considering the line it belongs to.


   
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The Snake Lair IS still coming.  This was posted today by CM Dom in the Mattel Creations forums...

Hi, @DEPP76 (and everyone else here in this thread)!

I just wanted to take a second to address the concerns raised about the future of this crowdfund.

Snake Lair is definitely still on the way and we'll actually be sharing more information this month! Stay tuned and thanks for your continued patience!


   
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@depp76 April Fools?


   
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@depp76 April Fools?

Nope.  That was brought up and his reply was...

"I promise it's no April Fools joke 🙏"

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Yeah I've been back into collecting this toyline for a month and the way it's headed is really confusing. Y'know what I would do?

1. The online reissues I mentioned

2. A crossover with a franchise that's as big as Turtles in terms of scale. If hopefully the new movie skyrockets MOTU back into the mainstream, I know a certain perfect franchise to pair that the more I think about, the more I want and am surprised NOBODY has thought nor talked about the possibility. 

So y'know that franchise I alluded to that's as big as TMNT in popularity, franchise and fans that would be perfect for a big scale crossover that nobody has ever thought of the idea? It's one I'm a humongous fan of. I'll give you guys hints.

80s icon and 90s icon

Both mixes of sci-fi and fantasy

 

Power...........

 

 

and speed

 


   
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@slycooperastroboy51 Confused He-Man

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@smitty-81 The only real problem with the crossover I'm alluding to is how the characters are designed, being shorter and a bit cartoony in appearance with noodley limbs

 

But I think maybe Mattel will somehow Live and Learn


   
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@slycooperastroboy51 i haven't a clue...

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Why don't you just tell us what you are referring to...


   
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@slycooperastroboy51 yeah, what @depp76 said.

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