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@cosmic Yeah but a BaF makes good business sense. It get's people to but a full wave to get something like Molkrom. Also you do have the option to sell your unwanted parts and /or figures on eBay, Facebook and this forum.
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@smitty-81 Yeah, good business for them, but some don’t like getting “forced” to buy things.
Me, I can’t go to the post office because disabled, which has prevented me from selling off stuff. 🤷
I get what you’re saying though, it’s just not for me. 😑
@cosmic you can seclude a pick up with the post office. All you have to do is pack it up and leave it at your door or where ever you pick and your mail carrier will grap it when they deliver your mail for the day.
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@smitty-81 Yeah, good business for them, but some don’t like getting “forced” to buy things.
Me, I can’t go to the post office because disabled, which has prevented me from selling off stuff. 🤷
I get what you’re saying though, it’s just not for me. 😑
Yep, it might be good business for them, but it's not practical at all for the collector who would want the entire build a figure but doesn't want the figures it requires to build it. And I personally don't want the hassle of buying stuff I don't want just to turn around and have to resell it incomplete since I took out the BAF parts to try and get part of my money back. The whole idea is just a pain in the butt to me.
@depp76 ok look I get it BaFs aren't for everyone but Hasbro has been doing it for years with their Marvel Legends and it's worked out for them. And selling the figures or parts is not much of a hassle. I did it not too long ago with some of my Age of Apocalypse X-Men. There are plenty of people that just want to build a figure parts but couldn't find the last figure. They needed. People that want just to figure and don't care about the build a figure and people that want to figure for customs. The market for loose figures is there.
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@smitty-81 You don’t know the New York City Post Office. Trust me it’s hell. 😏 All of this does take effort to figure out, I won’t bore you with my particulars, I just rather not be forced to deal with second hand body-parts market.
Not every “Innovation” of Marvel Legends is great for everyone. Just look at thigh cuts.
Alternative options, yes. Replace, no.My understanding is that the Masterverse line celebrates all aspects of MOTU. That's whey we have had figures from Revelation, Revolution, New Adventures, Princess of Power, the CGI series, Rules of the Sun, the movie, and New Eternia. That's also why I am surprised we haven't had Snakemen figures yet. I don't think the goal is to complete all figures from those lines (except maybe New Eternia), but just to highlight each one of those lines.
The goal of New Eternia should be to replace the Classics figures with affordable better versions.
Did that trigger you? Who wants Mattel’s goal to be providing alternative options? They should be going for the kill with the mindset that we need to be the best and beat Classics with every new figure.
@smitty-81 You don’t know the New York City Post Office. Trust me it’s hell. 😏 All of this does take effort to figure out, I won’t bore you with my particulars, I just rather not be forced to deal with second hand body-parts market.
Not every “Innovation” of Marvel Legends is great for everyone. Just look at thigh cuts.
I don't hate the thigh cuts like some do. Remember these are action figures not statues. Most articulation points break up the sculpt and I can live with them. Except for peg joints. Peg joints can go to hell.
@kraken See, everyone has their dealbreakers. I actually didn’t mind the peg joints in Classics.
Unlike most “professional” action figure collectors, I generally favor sculpt over articulation. But I do appreciate the articulation of Masterverse, so I’ve come around.
MOTU has the unique challenge that the figures tend to be pretty “naked”, so the joints are very exposed looking.
As long as we don’t have more joints than muscle, I’m ok with it, I suppose. I learned to love the qualities of MV, including the great reach of the arms, and the much better poseability of the legs.
It’s probably the figures that have no boots that are the trickiest: Savage He-Man and Green Teela, you have not only the thigh cut, but also a calve cut (where the boot would be). The leg just looks cut up so much…
But yeah, the rest I’m mostly on board with.
Oh good grief no it seems like you are the one who was triggered by your snarky comment up there. Anyways, yes I agree that the continued improvements of some of the Masterverse figures might surpass some of those in the Classics line...but Masterverse will never actually replace Classics no matter how you try to word it lol.Alternative options, yes. Replace, no.My understanding is that the Masterverse line celebrates all aspects of MOTU. That's whey we have had figures from Revelation, Revolution, New Adventures, Princess of Power, the CGI series, Rules of the Sun, the movie, and New Eternia. That's also why I am surprised we haven't had Snakemen figures yet. I don't think the goal is to complete all figures from those lines (except maybe New Eternia), but just to highlight each one of those lines.
The goal of New Eternia should be to replace the Classics figures with affordable better versions.
Did that trigger you? Who wants Mattel’s goal to be providing alternative options? They should be going for the kill with the mindset that we need to be the best and beat Classics with every new figure.
@depp76 You say the continued improvements of some of the Masterverse figures might surpass some of those in the Classics line? It's already happened.
@depp76 You say the continued improvements of some of the Masterverse figures might surpass some of those in the Classics line? It's already happened.
@he-mayon just curious which ones do you think are better?
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🇺🇸 SNOUT SPOUT FOR PRESIDENT 🇺🇸
@he-dad I can't see anyone arguing with the New Eternia Snout Spout not being better than the Classics. Mattel knocked that one out of the park. I hope they do the same with the Horde Trooper.
@asterstar That Horde Trooper is looking guuuuud bro! I love that we get to remove his helmet!
🇺🇸 SNOUT SPOUT FOR PRESIDENT 🇺🇸
Nerd that I am, the question of which Masterverse figures are better than Classics has been on my mind quite a bit. I think there are quite a few, actually. Now don't get me wrong, I collected Classics back in the day and absolutely loved them. It was one of the great action figure lines ever. But for what it's worth, here are my thoughts on the subject:
As a general thing, I greatly prefer the leaner look of the Masterverse line to the rather silly bodily proportions of Classics and the original line. Hugely subjective, I know, and not really a criticism of Classics (after all, that IS what the original toys looked like), but there you are.
He-Man: It seems an unpopular position, but like AJ I actually really like the Revelation He-Man. I haven't watched Revelation, and I'm not sure I will (too many odd bits for me), but our favorite hero's face is spot on for how I picture him; he looks young (about 17-18?), eager, friendly, brave and maybe a little naive. Really great.
Skeletor: The Horde Skeletor, with its nod to the 2000x Mike Young series, is also really good, as good as any of the Classics figures. With purple, black and red, what's not to like?
Snout Spout: Totally agree with what was said above. The Classics SS was a good figure, but the Masterverse is great, far better in my opinion.
Tri-Klops: Again, the earlier iteration was a solid figure, but the Masterverse New Eternia is just so much better. The added eye band is cool, but the clincher is that curling bully's lip and general expression!
Two-Bad: Masterverse definitely takes the palm here.
Buzz-Off: The Masterverse version is a fantastic figure, better even than the very good Classics rendition.
Stratos: I've always loved Stratos. Unfortunately for me, I don't have the Masterverse figure (the prices on the secondary market are just too damn high), but he is several notches above the Classics version. Mattel absolutely nailed this guy.
Stinkor: Another case where the Classics was really good but the Masterverse is better. I love the extra "sleepy-eyed" head!
Slush Head: And yet another case.
Faker: As I already love the Revelations He-Man, I find the Revelations Faker is just about perfect also. I love the blue silver of his robot body, the yellow orange of his harness, and those burning red eyes! (If I were to go with the more traditional blue Faker, I do think the Classics is a little better here.)
Man-At-Arms: This one is really close. The Classics MAA was a masterpiece. That said, the Revelations version, if a slightly different look, is also really, really good.
Clawful: This one is a cheat, so probably doesn't count, but I'll include him anyway. You see, Clawful for me definitely has that Muppet head (which I know many fans dislike), so what I did is to pop an Origins Muppet head on the Masterverse body and voila, a magnificent Clawful - especially with that new back carapace thing.
Honorable Mentions:
Battle Cat: Have to admit, the Classics version was probably slightly better, both in sculpt and color, but I have to say I also love the Masterverse version. The bigger size also adds to his awesomeness.
Beast Man: The Classics version was just superb. The New Eternia figure, however, is pretty darned close; it's just that his head sculpt is quite as good as the Classics.
Evil-Lyn: If the Masterverse figure was in her more traditional skirt I might prefer it, but as she's not...
Anyway, there are some thoughts. I think the Masterverse line is definitely going toe-to-toe with Classics in almost every case!
@asterstar That Horde Trooper is looking guuuuud bro! I love that we get to remove his helmet!
It will be the first time we can do that!
Nerd that I am, the question of which Masterverse figures are better than Classics has been on my mind quite a bit. I think there are quite a few, actually. Now don't get me wrong, I collected Classics back in the day and absolutely loved them. It was one of the great action figure lines ever. But for what it's worth, here are my thoughts on the subject:
As a general thing, I greatly prefer the leaner look of the Masterverse line to the rather silly bodily proportions of Classics and the original line. Hugely subjective, I know, and not really a criticism of Classics (after all, that IS what the original toys looked like), but there you are.
He-Man: It seems an unpopular position, but like AJ I actually really like the Revelation He-Man. I haven't watched Revelation, and I'm not sure I will (too many odd bits for me), but our favorite hero's face is spot on for how I picture him; he looks young (about 17-18?), eager, friendly, brave and maybe a little naive. Really great.
Skeletor: The Horde Skeletor, with its nod to the 2000x Mike Young series, is also really good, as good as any of the Classics figures. With purple, black and red, what's not to like?
Snout Spout: Totally agree with what was said above. The Classics SS was a good figure, but the Masterverse is great, far better in my opinion.
Tri-Klops: Again, the earlier iteration was a solid figure, but the Masterverse New Eternia is just so much better. The added eye band is cool, but the clincher is that curling bully's lip and general expression!
Two-Bad: Masterverse definitely takes the palm here.
Buzz-Off: The Masterverse version is a fantastic figure, better even than the very good Classics rendition.
Stratos: I've always loved Stratos. Unfortunately for me, I don't have the Masterverse figure (the prices on the secondary market are just too damn high), but he is several notches above the Classics version. Mattel absolutely nailed this guy.
Stinkor: Another case where the Classics was really good but the Masterverse is better. I love the extra "sleepy-eyed" head!
Slush Head: And yet another case.
Faker: As I already love the Revelations He-Man, I find the Revelations Faker is just about perfect also. I love the blue silver of his robot body, the yellow orange of his harness, and those burning red eyes! (If I were to go with the more traditional blue Faker, I do think the Classics is a little better here.)
Man-At-Arms: This one is really close. The Classics MAA was a masterpiece. That said, the Revelations version, if a slightly different look, is also really, really good.
Clawful: This one is a cheat, so probably doesn't count, but I'll include him anyway. You see, Clawful for me definitely has that Muppet head (which I know many fans dislike), so what I did is to pop an Origins Muppet head on the Masterverse body and voila, a magnificent Clawful - especially with that new back carapace thing.
Honorable Mentions:
Battle Cat: Have to admit, the Classics version was probably slightly better, both in sculpt and color, but I have to say I also love the Masterverse version. The bigger size also adds to his awesomeness.
Beast Man: The Classics version was just superb. The New Eternia figure, however, is pretty darned close; it's just that his head sculpt is quite as good as the Classics.
Evil-Lyn: If the Masterverse figure was in her more traditional skirt I might prefer it, but as she's not...
Anyway, there are some thoughts. I think the Masterverse line is definitely going toe-to-toe with Classics in almost every case!
New Adventures Skeletor is another. AJ did a funny side by side comparison and it's hilarious how jacked the Classics figure is.
Nice to see a lot of love for MV versions!
I may even add Clamp Champ to that list, perhaps because I just got him yesterday 😊
Choosing between the two versions, it wasn’t just the price that made me decide for MV (Classics CC is relatively affordable if you search); the colors are fresher and “newer”, and here’s once again the case that I love the Classics “naked” upper body, but once there is a shell armor, I prefer MV. (Ya know, the whole “puffiness” w shorter arms of Classics). His armor is really nice, with interesting slight redesign.
That he has to put half his arm inside the clamp is a bit funny, but for once it doesn’t fall out his hand.
Surprised that no one has posted about getting a processing soon email from BBTS for the Skeletor and throne. Got mine earlier today.
After two Masterverse packaging artwork teases, will KING HISS finally slither out of the shadows and reveal himself in "New Eternia" plastic form (perhaps at this month's San Diego Comic-Con?) 🐍🤞
Surprised that no one has posted about getting a processing soon email for the Skeletor and throne. Got mine earlier today.
I'm very pleased with mine, but what do you think?
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