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There's new news yesterday in the fight between Toy Guru and Figure In Question. Seems like Scott is tapping out. 

https://twitter.com/Redpyramid9/status/1785097343345594858


   
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@rogerblake this has been discussed in much greater detail over on the hemanworld forum, where Ethan himself has been providing insight and updates. The whole thing is kind of hilarious. Scott has reached peak clown levels, way beyond his controversial days as MOTU brand manager, if you can believe it.


   
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I was never particularly impressed with Scott, but given how much the fandom has ragged on him over the years, I honestly hope the guy just steps back, reassesses his approach and finds success.

At the end of the day, he's still a MOTU fan, so he can't be all bad, right? 😉


   
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Posted by: @disneyboy

I was never particularly impressed with Scott, but given how much the fandom has ragged on him over the years, I honestly hope the guy just steps back, reassess his approach and finds success.

At the end of the day, he's still a MOTU fan, so he can't be all bad, right? 😉

But he is really not. He has said so himself. He was always more of a DC fan, particularly Green Lantern. Hence, why he turned Trolla into Oa, and the Trollans into the Guardians in his awful Classics bios.

 


   
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Posted by: @adam_prince-of-eternia

Posted by: @disneyboy

I was never particularly impressed with Scott, but given how much the fandom has ragged on him over the years, I honestly hope the guy just steps back, reassess his approach and finds success.

At the end of the day, he's still a MOTU fan, so he can't be all bad, right? 😉

But he is really not. He has said so himself. He was always more of a DC fan, particularly Green Lantern. Hence, why he turned Trolla into Oa, and the Trollans into the Guardians in his awful Classics bios.

 

The more I read those Classics bios the more horrible they get. They didn't age well.

 


   
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@kraken I never got the chance to read those, which ones stand out as being especially bad?


   
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Posted by: @disneyboy

At the end of the day, he's still a MOTU fan, so he can't be all bad, right? 😉

Hitler was a fan of Mickey Mouse, so what one is a fan of doesn't say anything about their character. 

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Posted by: @smitty-81

Posted by: @disneyboy

At the end of the day, he's still a MOTU fan, so he can't be all bad, right? 😉

Hitler was a fan of Mickey Mouse, so what one is a fan of doesn't say anything about their character. 

And as a virulent anti-smoking vegeterian, he was practically woke!

 


   
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@durendal you say "woke" like it's a good thing.

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@kraken I never got the chance to read those, which ones stand out as being especially bad?

I guess it's a personal preference but to me none of them were ever great. Queen Marlena's wormhole starship smashing the Gar planet and the whole Demo-man thing comes to mind. Classics doesn't have to worry though dude because New Eternia bios sucks more. lol

 


   
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@kraken I don't like how MOTUC tried to shoehorn every thing into one continuity. Then they put Oo-Lar, a cave man, as He-Mans more resent ancestor. Also they told too much about the past, like really leave some of it a mystery.

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@kraken I don't like who MOTUC tried to shoehorn every thing into one continuity. Then they put Oo-Lar, a cave man, as He-Mans more resent ancestor. Also they told too much about the past, like really leave some of it a mystery.

This too.

 


   
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Outside of the vintage line, Classics is my favorite, but it always bugged me that Scott and Mattel seemed to have so little faith in MOTU at retail.  They seemed to think its only chance for success was in a "movie year".  Even if winding down, Origins and Masterverse proved successful at retail and have lasted longer than a lot of lines.  The cartoon and TMNT figures are spinoffs of the Origins figures as well.  


   
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Outside of the vintage line, Classics is my favorite, but it always bugged me that Scott and Mattel seemed to have so little faith in MOTU at retail.  They seemed to think its only chance for success was in a "movie year".  Even if winding down, Origins and Masterverse proved successful at retail and have lasted longer than a lot of lines.  The cartoon and TMNT figures are spinoffs of the Origins figures as well.  

I do not think it was Mattel that did not have faith in Classics, but retailers who were burned by the 2002 toyline.

 


   
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@firefly To be fair, Classics came out on the heels of 200X, which didn't exactly light retail on fire. I'm sure that contributed a lot to the skittishness at the time.


   
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It's difficult to sell a product at retail if the middle men won't bite. Motu was a franchise with a recent perceived failure, no current supporting media and little to suggest it would perform well if simply put back on shelves. The DC vs Motu Classics packs didn't set things on fire and it seems nor did the small number of Classics that somehow made it to retail. It's likely that any exploration with stock buyers yielded negative results. So it was natural to see a movie as the necessary breakthrough, at least with that generation of sales executives.


   
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@timrollpickering DC movies consistently under preform and have poor word of mouth. Yet they still get a collector's line of toys. While MOTU had a Netflix show that hit the top ten during it's first week.

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